Flood Response Planning was one of the agenda items at yesterday's Lismore City Council meeting.Councillor (Cr) Big Rob wanted Council to organise CBD flood response planning sessions in late November and February each year and invite experienced flood and weather forecasters from the local Lismore SES unit and the BOM to speak about expectations, to assist attendees to better understand and prepare for flood and weather events regularly experienced in the Lismore area.Mayor Krieg asked for an amendment to the motion to remove February, thus making it one flood response planning session each year. This was taken on board.While most Crs supported the intent of Cr Rob's motion, those who spoke were not supportive of the reasons Cr Rob put forward."I am concerned about the way information is being interpreted and disseminated, and in relation to the way it was done," Cr Rob said."I take note, Mr. Mayor, that you did say you'll listen to the experts, and yes, we definitely should listen to the experts. But in that situation, what many won't know is that it was the decision of one person. Well, my understanding is when I checked before I released the emergency warning to evacuate, I was told that one person made that decision based on some data from the BOM, and the data from the BOM didn't support that decision."And my concern is that a lot of people are getting complacent when things are wrong. So you know, we hear that better safe than sorry, blah, blah, blah, that's true. And as you said, Mr. Mayor, and I 100% support, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, but there's an extra bit, get ready to go on short notice. So you don't just leave because something might come. You wait until it's going to come, and then you go, and you have many hours' notice. And this is the problem.Cr Rob then talked about how businesses would calculate when they needed to evacuate depending on the flood level at the time."Now, I was doing these calculations during that event, and the worst number I got was six and a half hours. Six and a half hours, that was the worst number, and that was when there was a 28-centimetre rate of rise on the Friday night. So Thursday, we didn't even get to low-level flooding till Friday morning."So, one of the excuses was darkness. Well, you told everyone to evacuate by 9pm, you know, that's darkness, so why not wait till 9am at least? Give another 12 hours, right? We got to low flooding at what 9am we're at, I think, 4.29 or something like that, or 4.23 I think it was. And then not till the afternoon. We got to moderate flooding, and we never got to major. And you would have known that, if you were doing the early rate of rise, we never got close to it."Mayor Krieg made the point that every flood he has seen in Lismore is different."We can sit here and criticise what happened in March this year until the cows come home. But what we were dealing with was not only flooding, we were dealing with cyclonic winds as well. And I heard, as we all hear, stories around the local community about evacuation procedures, and why would you evacuate so early?"And I will recall a story about a long-term, 40-plus-year resident in South Lismore who, when they were door knocked on that Thursday afternoon to evacuate, and said, I know the height of the water to get to before I evacuate. And the local SES person that was door-knocking at that particular location said, that's all well and good until a power line comes down or a tree goes over the road and blocks your only exit out of that particular area, and that person took that advice on board and evacuated on that Thursday night."It was a very different situation to 2022, it was a very different situation to 2017 again, and I think you've got to take the whole picture into context with the forecast up to 150 kilometre an hour winds coming through Lismore. We were fortunate again that wind speeds only reached 85 to 90 kilometres, which minimised damage in our LGA."I'm not going to stand here and blame the SES for making a decision on all of the information that they were given, including potential rainfall, including potential high-velocity winds. I support the decision that was made based on those factors, even though the river height was at 1.51, my family evacuated. We went through the same procedures as we did in 2022 to get our children out of potential danger."Was it the right call? Hindsight would would say, maybe not. But at the time, I fully supported that decision, and I think one thing that I learned is you can never have too much information, and these sorts of seminars can only benefit our community moving forward."Cr Dalton-Earls said he had been to an SES session previously and learned that the Tuncester Gauge is the one that predicts the flood height for South Lismore and that can be anywhere from three to five hours before."I also did want to point (out) that when any individual says this is how we should be doing things, if you get it wrong, then you've got a lot of liability. So, I think we do have to still rely on the SES, the BOM, the state, those types of things as well, to just ensure that not any one individual is saying this is what should happen. Because if you get it wrong, the outcomes can be absolutely devastating. "And exactly what Mayor Steve Krieg has said as well, is it wasn't a typical rain event. If it was a typical rain event, you know, no one would be thinking about evacuating at one metre. It would be ridiculous. But in a cyclone event, for exactly that point, the tree goes down over your driveway, and you can't get out. And if we did get a flood, as could have been possible, it could have resulted in a loss of life. "I would much rather see people inconvenienced than even one loss of life because that's irreplaceable. Cr Jensen agreed with the once-a-year session but did want to gauge public and business interest each year. She also questioned Cr Rob's thoughts."I hear what you're saying, Councilor Rob, but we all know whether it's mother nature or an act of God, we don't know what's going to happen, so to be prepared, in my opinion, is a far better way to be than to wait until the last minute when everyone suddenly panics, the roads get blocked, something might go down across the road, and then we get into a situation that gets out of hand." Cr Gordon talked about the number of new residents or business owners that arrive each year in Lismore."We've got a lot of new people coming to town. And if you look at what's going on in town right now, you can expect, you know, more and more people will choose Lismore as their place to reside and work. And I think, as a result, we probably should get ahead of that because we seem to be having more of these rain events. We seem to be having more flooding. So, to say that you should just work it out yourself is probably not proactive, and it's not best practice in my mind." Cr Gordon then asked council staff for their experience during Tropical Cyclone Alfred and the decision-making behind it.Chief of Operations and Finance Brendan Logan mentioned his conversation with Minister for Emergency Services Jihad Dibb."I contacted the minister, and had a conversation with him myself, Mr. Dib, and just said, Look, this is the experience we've got that. The SES seem to be doing things a lot quicker than we would normally expect now. And he didn't shy away from that. He said, Absolutely, that's my expectation. I'd rather go early and not have to do something than go late and have something go wrong. "He said, I've asked the teams to operate like that, which was good for me to know. So then I've gone back to my teams and said, Look, whether you like it or not. That's why it is, so how do we work in with that, rather than ignore it or butt up against it? Mr Logan also shared his time in the Emergency Operations Centre at SCU."I was probably caught on the hop myself by some of these decisions that SES were making, but when they say the BOM data, my experience over that event was that it wasn't calculated, as you might have described earlier Cr Rob. There was an upper limit prediction included in some of the modelling from the BOM that was then provided to SES that was significantly higher than what we experienced. And I imagine that the officers, sort of receiving that, are going well, I've received something now that said this could happen. I need to take appropriate action."Mr Logan felt the bigger issue was the communication from the SES on their new expectations.When the vote was put to the councillors, the support was unanimous. So, the CBD will get a Flood Planning Session this November in preparation for the 2025/26 storm season.